Saturday, April 09, 2011

Edward, the gay son of Frankenstein's creature

Oh, I'm sure that the actor by himself is a very pretty boy. But as they made him up and present him, how can anybody, even confused teen girls, consider this guy attractive?


If they actually met him on the street, I think they would, quite sensibly, run away screaming. For one thing they have succeeded in making him look like a walking dead.

19 comments:

Kent McManigal said...

Yeah, but confused teenage girls are the ones who think starving themselves can make them sexy, and that cutting themselves is a good idea, and that dating abusive guys is normal, and that being depressed and looking gloomy won't make their lives even more depressing and gloomier.

Jes said...

Lol yeah, and there's certain scenes where he looks like he's wearing lipstick. They way overdid it with the vampires' makeup in that movie.

eolake said...

I think they usually put lipstick on men in movies and TV, and sometimes they misjudge it, and it sticks out.

Like, many actors (for example "Kenneth" on 30Rock) have over-whitened teeth, it looks very artificial.

Anonymous said...

Ha ha ha. Kent McManigal is presuming to judge the sanity of other people? Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Kent McManigal said...

Anonymous- Obsessed much? Really, it is flattering.

TC [Girl] said...

@Kent: I think the media as well as the consumer (read: "male audience") are just a couple of the causes of the starving and self-mutilation: the portrayal of what the "correct" (a.k.a. "perfect") proportions that a man "thinks" (more like brain-washed!!) are the only "acceptable" measurements of a girl; like, hmmm... lemme think of a combo. How's about: 36-24-36; the numbers of this world's "beast," 'The Perfect Hourglass Figure,' rather than just accepting a person for who they are. Of course, trying to turn this pressure around and onto a dude for even a second, in order to relate, would, simply, cause a "deer-in-the-headlights" stare 'cuz dudes don't spend their entire life cycle dealing with hormones that rage through a gurl's body causing much of the havoc before and after having had it altered, physically and hormonally, by the creation of a child inside it!

That and...the CRY for LOVE from anyone, especially the [possibly limited, due to a large part of our society's marital status] father figures in a girl's young and impressionable life; she will almost do whatever it takes to gain the acceptance of the males in her life as well as her peers. :-(

Girls have also gathered that dudes have this ODD fascination w/vampires, blood, and dark, ghoulish, and freaky things, so they try to emulate those, as well, again to try to gain their attention. Meanwhile, the dudes stand around playing "pocket pool" oblivious to what goes on in front of them!

And, basically, gurls get all "depressed and gloomy" because, no matter what a gurl does, the dudes are completely clueless to the fact that the gurls just want a little attention and...they ain't gettin' it unless they do something "feakish" to get that attention...especially if she is a 'Plain Jane.'

And...gurls sometimes choose gay dudes for friendship because neither wants anything in an orifice of the opposite sex; they just want some pure love and the chance to be accepted and understood as they are.

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

Well summed up, Kent! :-D
I think it's all related to that fandangled "new" Goth fad.

Teens these days... they don't know A THING about simple natural beauty. They should visist "a certain nude site" more often. ;-)

"and sometimes they misjudge it, and it sticks out."
That's why they call it lip-STICK! :-P
What do you expect, if it's combined with chalk-colored face powder? "Something unconspicuous", perhaps? ROTFL!

Ha ha ha ha. Anon made me laugh.
But then again, so does the Joker when he does his deadly hand-buzzer prank. }:-)
"Ha, ha-ha! Ha, ha-ha, ha-ha!" - (Mandark, evil boy genius)

@ TC: what, in your expert feminine opinion, is the best commercially-available detergent for brainwashing? Mine seems to have several very stubborn spots of common sense that just won't rinse away, even with bleach!
Which is a way to say "well spotted". For both of us. ;-)
Hourglasses are overrated, anyway. I trust quartz for the best time in my life. Re- ;-)

Speaking of which, TIME for a tiny correction, TC. Let's sum it up this way: Women ovulate once a month. Men do the equivalent about 5,000 times per minute. Who, do you think, is more emotionally unstable? :-D
Or do you think many men are like me, still without a clue as to what a "penis enlargement pill" looks & tastes like? ROTFL!

Elitism, social brainwashing... BAH! Always been present, but now that crappy nonsense immediately gets spread worldwide! You know what they say about culture: it's like jam, the less you have, the more you'll spread it.

As for the fascination with vampires, you should remember the following: their classic image appeared in Victorian times, and it was all a transparent metaphor for the (much amplified) frightening aspect of sex. Vampire = animalistic sensuality, so assert all the literature experts.
OF COURSE teenagers of both genders will dig this stuff! Like they dug(?) fairy tales as little kids. Fairy tales are nothing but a long series of freudian symbols, like the ever-classic abandoning/unloving parent or surrogate. The evil witch? Mommy, when she's angry and doesn't understand you. The ogre? The old synonym for paedophile, so don't ever enter a stranger's house.
The vampire? The emo teen girl's chills at the thought of her "first time", and that feeling that if she gets used & rejected by HIM, she'll "just die".
"With the first kiss comes blood." Could it be made any more explicit?...

And the vampire is the archetype of the "tall, dark, handsome, and slightly frightening" irresistible fascinating more experienced stranger that attracts you like a magnet.
Candid fantasies for the post-disney public.

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

"because neither wants anything in an orifice of the opposite sex" : LOL! So much for symbols & metaphors, eh?

But youre SO very right, TC: girls/women get confused, maybe less by us men (when in History were we NOT clueless, and you NOT complex, and yet the species prospered) than by the media and all that artificial culture shit.
So, to deal with that confusion, women they set compartments: love separate from friednship, and if possible sex in a third box. That way, disappointments should be limited. One drawer for undies and another for socks! That's exactly what the designers of the Titanic had planned, too. Water-tight compartments so as to never sink.
But it doesn't WORK that way. If you can only have gay/lesbian platonic friends of the opposite gender, then you're still clueless about what love is. And somewhere deep inside, you must definitely be very sad.

Poetry aside, love is something well above friendship, far more powerful, also something MORE, and its physical (carnal) aspect should be a natural, spontaneous, wonderful consequence that our Creator lovingly intended. Not these damned one-night flings, "I want you gone by morning" hormone-apeasing miserable anecdotes.

But to see women always calculating that behind love and sex must come commitment, and wedging it into the equation even before talking to a guy for the first time, that's also very harmful. Some things need to come naturally. "Do I like him? Would I go out with him? Let him kiss me?" should come before "Will his salary today pay for a great college when the kids are grown up?", "Will I feel real damn proud to be Mrs Him?" or "Will I be showered with luxury gifts like a fairy tale princess?"

Fairy tales for girls: the accursed beginning of society's brainwashing of females into ever-unsatisfied neurotic manipulative sumbission. (I have a draft under way for my blog about that very issue.)
The last real-life glamorous fairy tale I've witnessed, was the WONDEFUL dream-come-true marriage of one Diana Spencer. Rings a (wedding) bell?
"And they lived happily ever after", really?....

They say that loves makes us dumb. It's true, in a way. It shuts down a good part of our reasoning circuits.
Whe you don't have lots of booze at hand to reach the same result, it's Nature's best way to rub away all those "incompatible character differences" between Martians and Venusianettes so that the species can finally be perpetuated.
If we kept thinking too much, we'd come extinct in a handful of generations.
Fact: 75-80% of us were unplanned children. A mere surprise, which (most of the time, mercifully) was welcomed with unrestrained joy and love. But if parents kept planning and pondering and weighing... you see the results in the declining birth rate of nearly the entire West. Today's "modern" society has us thinking too much, and running in hollow circles.

End result: no happiness, no satisfaction, no rest of the mind. Like a whole country of undead, un-living wandering ramblers.

Kent McManigal said...

TC: Maybe girls should ask real guys what they like, or maybe just stop listening to other girls and the media and observe what real guys like.

I do think goth girls are cute. And hippie chicks and geek girls and "chubby girls" and skinny girls and... well, just girls in general. But you know what "freakish" trait will gain my attention the fastest? A girl who smiles, laughs, and enjoys herself. A girl like that is almost impossible to not fall in love with, no matter what size she is or what she looks like. Test this and be amazed.

And you know what drives me away faster than anything? A girl who wallows in despair and blames men for all her problems, and is bitter and angry, and above (or below) all the rest: the girl who is jealous and hateful toward women (especially those who smile, laugh, and enjoy life), whom she believes are a threat to her "relationship".

Yet, sadly, I have watched as girls go from one abusive relationship to the next, wondering why "all guys are such jerks", and not being interested in a guy who thinks she is wonderful and who would do anything for her, just because she only wants to be friends with him. I actually watched one girl reject one guy because she only wanted to find, or could only imagine herself with, a "blue eyed, blonde haired guitar player". And yes, I watched such a guy later use her and dump her and leave her wondering why "all guys are like that".

You say "the dudes are completely clueless to the fact that the gurls just want a little attention", yet from what I've seen, the guys offer the attention, but unless they are exactly what the girl is looking for, the attention is ignored or seen as completely unwelcome.

The sexes sometimes think they see things completely differently, and both think they see the true picture. As someone else pointed out to me, each sex is like one eye: they each see a slightly different version of reality, but only when combined can the 3-dimensional nature of the world be experienced. It's gender parallax.

As that same guy has stated "Many of life's tragedies- and comedies- arise from a misconception women suffer from: that sex is optional." You can hide from this by seeking out gay guy-friends, but you are only cheating yourself.

joe fontana said...

Men do the equivalent about 5,000 times per minute. Who, do you think, is more emotionally unstable? :-D

I'd say still women as 5,000 times per minute means it's actually more consistent.

TC [Girl] said...

Pascal said...
"...women they set compartments: love separate from friednship, and if possible sex in a third box."

Weird! What is a "real relationship" without the combination of all of these?!

"But it doesn't WORK that way. If you can only have gay/lesbian platonic friends of the opposite gender, then you're still clueless about what love is. And somewhere deep inside, you must definitely be very sad."

Agreed. Quite a sad scenario!

"...love is something well above friendship, far more powerful, also something MORE, and its physical (carnal) aspect should be a natural, spontaneous, wonderful consequence that our Creator lovingly intended."

Right. Well put.

"But to see women always calculating that behind love and sex must come commitment, and wedging it into the equation even before talking to a guy for the first time, that's also very harmful."

Weird how men think re: "commitment." But, again...if you guys were the ones "pooping out" the children, you would probably be thinking much more sensibly. And...coming from a Doctor, I would even say that that was an irresponsible comment: forgetting the "real" reason for "love and sex" in the first place? It ain't just intended to get everybody's rocks off and...to not be thinking, responsibly, before doing the deed can lead to many problems for everyone involved.

"Some things need to come naturally. "Do I like him? Would I go out with him? Let him kiss me?""

Of course! Why would a woman even entertain the thought of "love and sex" without those items even having been considered?

"...should come before "Will his salary today pay for a great college when the kids are grown up?""

As stated, above, IF a woman is even thinking that far (doubt it; you even quoted the statistics of how things go UNPLANNED) at that point, I would be quite surprised but applaud her for thinking of the future of her children! And if, of course, these items haven't even been considered, during the time of "courtship," then that could make for a SAD day for her children.

"Fact: 75-80% of us were unplanned children. A mere surprise, which (most of the time, mercifully) was welcomed with unrestrained joy and love."

Not sure most people would see it like that. I think people just try to do the best that they can w/the situation they have put themselves in, unintentionally, but, in the long run, and because we are a selfish bunch, it divides people...even the ones that have planned for children. It's a tough "game," parenthood.

"But if parents kept planning and pondering and weighing... you see the results in the declining birth rate of nearly the entire West. Today's "modern" society has us thinking too much, and running in hollow circles.

End result: no happiness, no satisfaction, no rest of the mind. Like a whole country of undead, un-living wandering ramblers."

I think it's just a people who has become more self-absorbed and perhaps also not meeting anyone who is willing to make a commitment to something "permanent," nor even interested, in creating a stable home life for a family. It cuts too much into their own agenda. :-(

TC [Girl] said...

Kent said...
"Maybe girls should ask real guys what they like..."

Define "real." :-) Most men are out chasing something that isn't "real."

"...maybe just stop listening to other girls and the media and observe what real guys like."

That might help...as it probably would, with the dudes! :-D

"...and "chubby girls"..."

You're a rare breed if that is the case!

"A girl who smiles, laughs, and enjoys herself. A girl like that is almost impossible to not fall in love with, no matter what size she is or what she looks like. Test this and be amazed."

That has been "tested" and, yes, if "the looks" aren't part of "the deal" for dudes, it just doesn't happen.

"And you know what drives me away faster than anything? A girl who wallows in despair and blames men for all her problems, and is bitter and angry, and above (or below) all the rest: the girl who is jealous and hateful toward women (especially those who smile, laugh, and enjoy life), whom she believes are a threat to her "relationship"."

Is that anything like when a woman commits herself to a "relationship" w/a dude but he can't help but, openly, be tripping on his drooling tongue as he, rudely and insensitively, looks around at other women?! That spells "chopped liver" to a woman when a dude does stuff like that! But...I think BOTH sexes misunderstands the other, incessantly: "jealousy" is derived from a woman *knowing* that a dude isn't fully committed to her, their "relationship," or their children BUT she remains w/the "heel" because she would rather do that than have "broken" children who suffer from the break-up of a "quasi-stable" home life!

And...jealousy *should* be an indicator that a dude (or woman) hasn't made an effort to nurture their partner in the way that best meets the need (ie: emotional, physical, spiritual, whatever) of that partner. That's the BIG part that men miss and make it a negative thing rather than a very accurate indicator of what is missing in the "relationship..." IF a dude/woman were even "observing," of course.

"Yet, sadly, I have watched as girls go from one abusive relationship to the next,"

Yes and that doesn't even have to be overt abuse, like physical, either. It can be emotional neglect or mental abuse as well.

"I actually watched one girl reject one guy because she only wanted to find, or could only imagine herself with, a "blue eyed, blonde haired guitar player". And yes, I watched such a guy later use her and dump her and leave her wondering why "all guys are like that"."

Yup! Seen it w/dudes, as well! They think ALL women are "bitches" because they bought into the empty "cute" Bubbleheads!

(cont'd)

TC [Girl] said...

Kent said...
"You say "the dudes are completely clueless to the fact that the gurls just want a little attention", yet from what I've seen, the guys offer the attention, but unless they are exactly what the girl is looking for, the attention is ignored or seen as completely unwelcome."

As mentioned, above, it has to do with *what* kind of attention the dude is giving the gurl: is it something that he deems the "proper" attention, rather than discovering what makes her "tick" (my recommendation: trying this)?

"As that same guy has stated "Many of life's tragedies- and comedies- arise from a misconception women suffer from: that sex is optional." You can hide from this by seeking out gay guy-friends, but you are only cheating yourself."

I agree. Kind of boring without that integral part of a relationship but, again, if a woman's needs aren't met, emotionally, then a dude might as well just go out and have a "relationship" w/a hooker! ;-) Don't waste your time fooling yourself or your partner's, into thinking that you are "committed" just because you keep your dick at home! She isn't going to want anything to do with "it," if you haven't spent time nurturing other areas of your "relationship." Learn that and I GUARANTEE that you'll be a HAPPY MAN for the rest of your days! As you, yourself, said: "Test as be amazed!" :-D

Kent McManigal said...

You're a rare breed if that is the case!

While that might be true, I'm probably not as rare a breed as you'd imagine. The Love of My Life was a chubby girl; other people said they couldn't see what I saw in her. But I couldn't see why they couldn't see it.

..."jealousy" is derived from a woman *knowing* that a dude isn't fully committed to her, their "relationship,"

Or, maybe he isn't committed because there is no relationship at all. I could tell you a true tale of such a "relationship" that would curl your hair.

...if "the looks" aren't part of "the deal" for dudes, it just doesn't happen.

Then you are testing it on damaged dudes. Stop wasting time on them. "The looks" are different for different guys, and most are not that narrow-minded in what they like. Being joyful and flirty will take you farther than being "gorgeous" and bitchy.

"...he can't help but, openly, be tripping on his drooling tongue as he, rudely and insensitively, looks around at other women?!"

Guys are going to notice women they find attractive. That doesn't mean he likes her better than you. It is a sad sort of life to be prohibited from looking at carnations just because you love your rose. And, from what I've seen, many women interpret innocent noticing as drooling, and over-react (which diminishes their beauty).

I prefer a girlfriend who can tell me she finds other guys attractive. As long as she doesn't dump me for them why should it bother me? She chooses me over him, so that counts for a lot. And I prefer the same attitude from a girlfriend, too. Be open and there is no need to be threatened by it. What I have seen, though, is that jealousy (without real cause) makes the guy look more, and more longingly, and really increases the "grass is greener on the other side of the fence" feeling. If he doesn't feel free to look, he will still look but will act guilty about it.

But, those are just my observations. I'm just a dude; what do I know? ;)

Anonymous said...

Pascal, you poor boob, what are you doing siding with an ass like Kent? He's for everything you're against - and he has yet to justify any of his opinions with any evidence (he's never done that! Never!).

Kent McManigal said...

Pascal- Leaving aside Fanboy's oddly desperate-seeming opinion, there seems to be very little you have said on here that I oppose too strongly. Minor disagreements at times; but mostly over details, nothing too fundamental. I consider you a rational person and certainly not anyone evil or anything. Basically, I would gladly sit down with you anytime to discuss anything, and not worry that you were going to attack me or otherwise violate the ZAP or commit a wrong upon my person. I can't say the same about Fanboy.

And, contrary to Fanboy's baseless assertion, I offer evidence (I need no "justification") all the time to those who actually wish to discuss things with me without flinging their "poo" like a bored and frustrated monkey. He seems to imagine this is the only place I spend my time. I can only discuss things rationally with rational people. Which is why I have discussed things with you in the past, and why I will probably never waste my time with Fanboy.

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

Kent,
SMILES? Come on, man, now that's just sick. Perverted. I mean, isn't that against-nature fetish illegal in 17 States, and worthy of decapitation in most muslim countries? ;-)
[Dare I confess I'm like you? Amusedoholics Anonymous, here we come!]

Time to whine a bit: on the french Animal Channel, there was this absolute cutie young doll presenting the network's themed news. Saw her today, and almost didn't recognize her. She's had "something" done to her eyes. Looks like a satanic combination of botox, face lift and whorish make-up. Now she looks as if her abusive BF gave her a pair of black eyes, which she's half-managed to hide through heavy use of her powderpuff.
I'm half despondent. Somebody has popped Pascal's red balloon with a tommy-gun.

Better gather some stocks for the rainy days, Eo, because it seems like Domai will have a harder and harder time finding beautiful natural models.
No wonder you have to get them "barely legal". After a few years, it's usually too late, they've wreaked irreversible scalpel havok into their features! }:-(

You know what else "gets me every time" in a woman, Kent? Confidence. The sort of self confidence that makes them snicker at the mere thought of having some "job" done. Confident and fun, I won't just date her, I'll very seriously consider her!
[This makes TWO reasons for me to seek a GF closer to my own age : if she's still "unmodified" after she's had plenty of time to do so, then she accepts her natural beautiful self, and therefore she's got that core self-confidence I find oh so sexy. Either that, or she's flat broke!!!]

Not ALL guys are "nice & decent". But yes, yes and yes again, a majority of girls today are just too... I dunno, dopey? indoctrinated? shallow? fickle? to recognize Mr Right when he's grinning them silly in the face with a bouquet of peach-colored roses.
Especially in Lebanon. Local culture abominably encourages such nonsense.
Recently, I saw the Brittons getting all wild with enthusiasm about "THE" wedding. I bet it'll be just as magical as the previous one. You know, when one Diana Spencer married a Prince Charming... :-P
Ah well, whatever rocks their boat. Me, I prefer treehouses. :-D

"Gender parallax"... Now there's a very nice notion. Yours original?

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

TC Hitchcocked...
"Weird! What is a "real relationship" without the combination of all of these?!"

Well, I believe *ALSO* in real friendship. But now that's not the same as a RELATIONSHIP. So, I guess the answer to your question would be "a bread sandwich, made with half a loaf". And wondering why you didn't get a free beer with that order! :-p

Weird how men think re: "commitment."
Commitment is perfectly okay. I'm LOOKING for commitment. But in proper time. I don't want to date chicks that only see me as a luxury wallet with legs. (I've got nice legs, but that's beside the point!) Can't we see if we LIKE each other, before calculating how "interesting" we are after the prenuptial agreement and the attorney fees?
What about romance, goddamit?
(That's actually the title of a classic French movie! 'Nuff said.)

"forgetting the "real" reason for "love and sex" in the first place?"
Come on. Who in their right mind thinks about dopamin, endorphins and liluberin when they kiss? The REAL "real" reason, is to believe in the magic. Because I assure you, it IS out there, waiting for the discerning eye. Stoically...
Of course, I want to date a woman which I can picture as the mother of my children. But this is what the abovementioned criteria are for. They bring that vital harmony between the parents.
You try thinking of delivery, stinky diapers or midnight baby bottles during foreplay, and tell me what it does to help you enjoy your wild rodeo night.
"Like I said", you have to know when to think, and when it's adequate to stop thinking too much.
Which makes me add a third criterium to my ideally sexy babe: sensible. I'm not really looking for an arrogant pathological prankster, either. (But getting "naughty" for fun at times, sure, that sounds great. ;-)

Uhm... I hope I'm not sounding too much like I'm considering this blog a free alternative to the personals! ;-) Just saying, for the sake of discussion.

BTW, my statistics for planned births? That included children born in marriage. I don't mean that most of us were accepted with a sigh becaause there was no turning back, just that prospective parents have a knack for over-thinking matters.
If I were to follow my own, rational thinking, I'd get a vasectomy right now, because the negative odds really do not encourage me in bringing my loved children into that bleak-looking exhausted warring overpolluted world.
Which is why, when I find the right partner and we trust each other and are half-decently secure materially... we'll just go for it!
This is how acutely I'm aware of the dangers of thinking too much.
Sometimes, you just have to trust in the Universe, and just take the chance! You know, just in case the worst DOESN'T happen after all. :-)
Exactly like the thermonuclear WW3 didn't happen after all. :-))

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

"It's a tough "game," parenthood."
Stating the obvious here, Mr Springer! ;-)
But most of it, I think, is about preparing yourself in advance, by growing up into a responsible adult ready to give love without counting.
Because, in the end, that's what parenting is about.
Saw yesterday a tiger mom ready to give her life defending her young ones. She almost did, in fact. It's a miracle that she survived and eventually recovered. But the three teen-cubs became beautiful adults.
See? I don't just take parenting inspiration from the birds!

"Maybe girls should ask real guys what they like..."
Define "real."

Simple: you skim all the images taken from Hollywood, TV, magazines, Disney, Barbara Cartland, AND Jerry Springer. You keep what's left. That'll be guys just being themselves. I'd say they don't come any more real than that.
I fart on all molds, I'm my own person, labels cannot define me in a misery handful of common words.
Fuck the mass-media! No, wait: if I did THAT, I'd be lowering my dating stantards. :-P