Wednesday, February 08, 2012

NAZI'S on the MOON Movie (2012)

TTL found this trailer of the now-finished Iron Sky movie. Looks promising. Good ol' visual SF.

What I'm waiting for is full CGI movies, like Pixars, but made for adult audiences instead of family audiences. Don't get me wrong, I love the best of the family movies, not the least Pixar's, but it's still an artificial restriction.
Perhaps it's the issue of realistic humans which is the problem. It's hard to make realistic humans, and human characters which look like animé characters is hard to take seriously if it's not a comedy or a family movie.
I guess they could make it a comedy and yet *not* a family movie. There has already been lots of animated films/TV like that. It seems nobody is banning South Park, despite being graphically vulgar and a cartoon, so why not CGI movies? (Not that they have to be vulgar, there are many different ways of making movies which are aimed at adults.) It would just be great to see outstanding SF movies like that, for example. (Of course they could mix it, which is already happening to a huge degree.)

20 comments:

Alex said...

I'm glad you're posting a follow up, it's been a couple of years since you first mentioned this one.

Timo Lehtinen said...

As one YouTube commenter put it: "If there is one thing more fashionably cool than Nazis in black SS uniforms, it's Nazis in black SS uniforms in flying saucers from a secret swastika shaped moonbase."

Timo Lehtinen said...

Apparently the trailer linked above was only for the purposes of the Berlin film festival premier.

The official theatrical trailer can be viewed here (YouTube).

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

I'll probably watch it, it seems well made.
But I'm beginning to doubt how great it'll really be. The central concept seems to invite a lot of inventiveness and humor. But neither seems to be there in any great quantity so far. The designs and the story seem to be very standard.

Timo Lehtinen said...

It's a parody. The gags are not underlined like in Hollywood films; you need to get them.

When you say that the "designs and the story seem to be very standard" you may already be looking past some of it. A bit like when you were wondering what people found so funny in the quiet scenes in The Office. In other words, not seeing the forest for the trees.

Now, I've read that some of the gags in the film pay homage to specific films (for example 2001: A Space Odyssey, Dr. Strangelove and Chaplin's Dictator), which one needs to have seen to fully grok the references, but mostly it seems to be a genre play.

The Nazi's symbolize the US ("We Come in Peace", etc.) The earthlings symbolize the civilized world.

The US president ran (and won) the presidency with the slogan "Blacks to the Moon - Yes She Can!".

The time on the TV screen (seen in the trailer) when the reporter breaks the story about the UFO's first opening fire is 9:11 PM.

Also, a big part of it is Laibach's music, which is a bit of a stylistic gag in itself.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

OK, kewl.

Alex said...

Just to change subject completely there is now a movie based on "The Princess of Mars", the Edgar Rice Burroughs novel featuring John Carter.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

Ah, I loved the Mars books when I was a kid.
Took it to school to be read aloud, but the teacher felt it was too scary for us (we may have been 12 or so).

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A trailer can fool ya anyway. For example, the trailer for Beverly Hills Cop 2 made it seem like a very funny movie, which it wasn't. But on the other hand it did not show what a ground-breaking movie it was in movie visuals.

Timo Lehtinen said...

Although, to be honest, if this film wasn't Nazi themed, I probably would not have payed any attention to it. Fans will probably be forgiving a lot of weaknesses in the film in return for this one coolness factor.

Another factor is that it is an independent film that has heavily involved the community with crowd-sourcing and crowd-funding.

Combine this with a script that pokes fun of Hollywood and the US presidency, and you can't really go wrong.

Dave Nielsen said...

It's a parody. The gags are not underlined like in Hollywood films; you need to get them.

This actually seems like a very Hollywood movie. And the references will be understood by everyone. I mean, after all, you got them.

Clearly, though, irrationality still rules:

The Nazi's symbolize the US ("We Come in Peace", etc.) The earthlings symbolize the civilized world.

You'd be trashing this movie mercilessly had it been made by an American director. It's just a slick rehash of standard B movie ideas, upscaled a bit sort of like what Tarantino has done in the past. Had Tarantino in fact made this (by comparison to this guy, though, Tarantino is incredibly subtle), you'd hate it. It can't hurt that the director is Finnish.

Steve McQueen said...

It's a universal European pasttime, especially among the unintelligent, to mindlessly trash the United States. I'm sure Britain, vastly reduced in power and influence, had a lot of people hating them back in the day. Now they eagerly join in trashing and mocking the current top dog - which, these days, is kind of like kicking a man when he's down.

Finland never will have to worry about that, which is probably why Timo is so bitter. Bad enough to be like England, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy - a hasbeen. Worse to be like Finland and be a never-was (and never-will-be).

Timo Lehtinen said...

Glad you folkz like zis documentary!

Timo Lehtinen said...

The first four minutes of the film now posted online.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

That looks really great. super realistic.

How cool is it that now we can *stream* HD. It feels like last week when streaming was a tiny window which bogged all the time.

Timo Lehtinen said...

It looks totally delicious. I have a ticket to the screening here on April 2nd. I can't wait.

Another film I intend to haul my ass to the theater for is Ridley Scott's Prometheus.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

Yes, I heard a lot of good things about that one. Especially the "steak over sizzle" use of 3D.

Timo Lehtinen said...

The African American astronaut (Mr. Washington) has a dark grey space suit, while Mr. Sanders has a white one. LOL!

Eagle has landed, baby! :-)

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

Yes, I laughed at that too. I guessed the black guy would be in the grey suit. Though they didn't have the balls to make it actually black.

Timo Lehtinen said...

I guess that would've been overdoing it. Grey can be considered a style statement; brothas like to look cool and all that. Or maybe in 2018 NASA uses different color of suit depending on rank?

At 0:08 there is a correction of a typo by backspacing.

The opening scene brings Kubrick to my mind, but I can't put my finger on where that association comes from. Maybe the Hawaiian music. Or maybe the shape of the astronauts' helmet.

Laibach's Wagner rendition sounds really fitting and delicious in these first minutes. Aural delight!

Timo Lehtinen said...

Oh yeah, Mr. Washington says: "Hey Sand, what you doing with that thing hopping around over there? I thought you were supposed to take some photos of me."

So, he's clearly proud of how he looks in that darker toned suit. LOL!