I never cease to be amazed at just how f**ked up some people manage to become.
Terry said...
You not crazy if you commit suicide. Many people no longer want to live. Sad, but true.
My grandfather use to tell them that once you find everything uninteresting it's time to die, and no, he wasn't mental, just a tired old man.
Gen said...
Suicide can be the only logical way out of immense problems. Thus it is seen as a relief by the suffering person, not as a crime or whatever.
Oh, I agree. I did not intend to imply otherwise. I was talking about his life, not his death. And also the way he did it: throwing himself in front of a train. It's highly messy, traumatizes others needlessly. And what if you survive!
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You not crazy if you commit suicide. Many people no longer want to live. Sad, but true.
My grandfather use to tell them that once you find everything uninteresting it's time to die, and no, he wasn't mental, just a tired old man.
Suicide can be the only logical way out of immense problems. Thus it is seen as a relief by the suffering person, not as a crime or whatever.
Problems can surround your head like an iron cage, an unbearable feeling.
Good if an expert is around in this stadium, giving mental first aid to the sufferer.
"It's highly messy[...] And what if you survive!"
Yeah, then you'd REALLY want to stop living!
I never understood that some people pose themselves as moral authority on whether the decision on a person's own life belongs to that person. Who else, since there are so many different opinions and God's private number is unlisted?
I never accepted that kind of attitude, and never will. That's one good thing about death, it's the ultimate escape (I think Houdini said that once). Nobody judging you in THIS world will ever form a suicide posse to come rawhidin' after your soul. It'd be against their law! :-P
(Um... a bit like killing a killer, in a way. It is written in Lebanese law : "The killer shall be killed".)
Life is a human right. Which it can only be if it isn't a forced fate. An obligation is NOT a right any more. If I have the free right to live, it means I also have the free right not to, doesn't it? Provided I am the one to decide, not the pro-life whackos that are simultaneously pro-death.
(Oh, they do NOT wield double standards, no no no! They don't have ANY stable standards, in reality. Bigot and hypocrite are the same word. One needs only look at the repeated scandals all around Saint George Bush. It's always "Do as I say, don't do as I do".)
):-P
I consider myself a man of compassion. If somebody is in such pain that they'll want to end their life, I will sincerely say "I'm sorry for you", but not because I decided they'll burn in Hell for their gesture. Only because life became a hell to them, and this is a proven fact. (P.S.: I'm not discussing this proven fact with anybody who has no psychiatric knowledge. Waste of saliva.) No metaphysical threats will ever deter someone who has to choose between a certain present suffering and a very unknown and unverified presumed suffering in the Beyond, promised by the same people who will cover up pedophilia when it is the doing of their own camp.
I'll try to make a suicidal depressive change his mind as promptly as the next Good Samaritan. But I won't curse the poor guy if I fail to convince him.
Some "preachers" want to bind Man. Fortunately, God gave him freedom. For better and for worse. My eternal thanks for that, Lord. You can't go head-on against the orders of the Boss! ):-P
What God tolerates means He leaves us free to choose. Free, therefore responsible. Responsible and accountable before Him only. The rest is just human law. Philosophically, we are entirely free in this life, free to do anything if we so wish and circumstances or others do not stop us. This is the nature of the world God placed us into, its only intangible rule. We have guidance (whether wise or not is a whole other topic), but there are only things we SHOULDN'T do. By definition. Just like a child may get punished but there's no removing his freedom to be mischievous if he's impervious --or rebellious-- to education. We can only try our best to teach and educate him/her. When we say to somebody in court "no, you were not free to abuse a child", it only means that human law prohibits it. But the Omnipotent clearly chose not to make it impossible. Man has absolute freedom, for better and for worse. Why, oh Lord? My guess would be : because the best is only possible if the worst also is. Which suggests that Good more than makes up for Evil according to divine criteriae.
Any doctrin denying Man's freedom of choice is a scam by definition. Whatever the shine and prestige of its label. Maybe I should do this, maybe I shouldn't do that, but by Jove, I CAN. Apart from my own conscience, my only legitimate moral judge is the one I'll meet if He exists. And he is defined as infinite love and mercy, so I'm sure even if I made a mistake because I was blinded by suffering He can understand and take it into fair consideration before the Holy Spanking. Nobody on this Earth is going to change God's will, and there are no certificates for anybody claiming to be an official ambassador of the Creator. (Hence the current anarchy and religious exuberance. Notice God tolerates this state of things just like everything else, without commenting, which means that there too we are likely to make mistakes and be accountable for them.)
It is not my place to judge one's life and choices. It is nobody's place. We have human laws, --which may vary greatly with time and place-- necessary to ensure social order, provided of course these laws can actually be genuinely enforced (unlike in Lebanon, f'rinstance), but that's all there is to it. Judging somebody's life and choices means trying to usurp God's exclusive privilege, which is at best a sin of pride. And at worst heretic blasphemy.
(Not that God seems to show great balls of angry fire towards blasphemy, anyway...)
So long, Bob, may your soul find some peace. I didn't know you, but I'd say just the same for any departed, from Zarqawi to Mother Teresa. I may like or dislike, but I shall not pass judgement.
After all, an evildoer is empty inside, and therefore already unhappy and punished enough without any effort needed from me. It is only a matter of time before they realize and feel it, in this life or the next. A real believer trusts God to fairly and unfailingly give everybody just what they deserve. Without any need for mortal assistance.
P.S.: I already expect the obvious question : "You say you won't judge, and yet you do so for people who judge. What gives?"
Well, it's very simple : there is only one thing that doesn't deserve tolerance, and that is intolerance, otherwise all these principles would be pointless and doomed by essence and their own contradiction. Reducing someone else's rights is nobody's right. For example, when Bin Laden says that islamic faith commands that all infidels convert or else they must die, he's WAY overstepping his legitimate human rights to religious belief!!!. So, to be perfectly coherent, I'll be more specific: "It is wrong to judge. But I'll stick to just saying it, without demanding any law. Being dumb and rigid IS a free right like any other. In the exclusive frame of individual choices." The principle is not good because it is MY principle. The principles are above all of us.
Which proves Man CAN create something that is superior to himself. :-)
[Cue rolling barrage fire or spiteful criticism in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... IGNITION!]
Wow, when it rains, it pours. And when it doesn't... it can also last for days. ;-)
My daring theories usually unitiate more reactions. Ah, well! More free time for me. I have a police mystery to read, anyway. Even though I thought since chapter one that this "Bloody Doll" will probably turn out to be a murdered AUTOMATON. But I still don't know where that vampire stuff fits in the bigger picture.
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