Tuesday, April 03, 2007

"Support nude culture"


"Support nude culture", says these two brave young Estonian women.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'll grant you the women are brave. But that dog's NOT nude: I can clearly see a collar.
What a gyp!

Hannah said...

But... is there really such a thing as nude culture? Or is it just the freedom to not have to wear clothes? Which isn't a culture, per se...

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

Heck, how do we define culture? I guess anything that can bring people together can be regarded as "a culture".

Anonymous said...

that's one of the most interesting posts i've seen lately EO, impressed for sure.
where is this place? thx.

Anonymous said...

Yes it is!

Everybody was having fun, the presence of the dog adds to making the event look natural (good you chose this pic for the post, Eolake).

Then came the policeman.
(Obviously only doing his duty)

Thanks for sharing.

If I had a laptop, I'd be sending my comment straight out of the woods, lol.
It's warm, and the sun is shining.
Enjoy spring, everybody!

Xiao Beep.

Anonymous said...

Or is it just the freedom to not have to wear clothes?

I don't wear any panties beneath my jean shorts in the spring or summer. I'd rather go buck naked if they'd let me.
I'm 34 26 32. Most people don't have a problem with it cept the law. I guess I'm a naughty girl of 19 huh?

Anonymous said...

I wish I could be nude 24/7. Because I'm autistic, I HATE the feel of cloths. I wish were I lived was a clothing optional town! And I wouldn't have to pay maney to be nude! BTW.... What about that dog????

Anonymous said...

That dog wears a coat of hair.
It's not an issue of nudity with that dog. It's got to do with protection eg against cold.

Anonymous said...

No Panties said: "... I'm 34 26 32. Most people don't have a problem with it cept the law."

You're right. EU law says bust and hips shall be exactly the same, else the person may be deported. You need to work on your hips.

Hannah said...

No offense meant, No Panties. But just because you happen to have "nice" measurements, everybody finds it a pleasure to see you without clothes, but wouldn't care/appreciate/detest seeing people who don't look as great?

Not to harp along on the same tune, guys, but it's just something that bothers me.

Anonymous said...

You need to work on your hips.

Dude, are you lost? That's not bad, it's quite nice. It's not her waist size lol.

But just because you happen to have "nice" measurements, everybody finds it a pleasure to see you without clothes, but wouldn't care/appreciate/detest seeing people who don't look as great?

Yes, they are nice measurements. That ttl girl doesn't get it? But anyway, back on track, I don't mind seeing thicker women nude or seeing smaller women naked.
I do not detest anyone who likes being bare all the time.
Heck, most women enjoy viewing me at least I've been told :) Hannah, I'm sure whatever size you are that you'd feel better if you ever tried it.

Anonymous said...

where is this place?

It's near the Russian border I think mister. Or is it Germany?

Anonymous said...

No Panties said...
"I'm 34 26 32. Most people don't have a problem with it cept the law. I guess I'm a naughty girl of 19 huh?"


Absolutely. Shame, shame on you. Being pretty is a crime... in Pakistan! ;-)
In some places of the USA too, apparently. :-(
I blame it all on the primitive mentality of those who are unable to admire and appreciate without coveting. In Ancient Egyptian mythology, the Crocodile was so greedy, he once swallowed the Sun to have it all for himself. (But even way back then, the Croc was clearly a villain of the tale. These antique folks were civilized.)
I don't have a problem with you either, NP, so I must be a hardened enemy of Society. :-)

Rebekah,
Apparently the dog just happened to be passing by, and didn't see anything wrong with two female humans standing still with no collars on. :-)
This is what makes this photo so funny and cute.

terry said...
"where is this place?"


Estonia, it would appear. According to one of Eolake's friends.
It sure isn't Turkey or Lebanon, I can tell you that!

TTL said...
"EU law says bust and hips shall be exactly the same, else the person may be deported. You need to work on your hips."


LOL! Good one! :o)

Hannah said...
"it's just something that bothers me."


Again, my dear, I recommend you try authentic naturism. You'd meet many people who don't mind seeing other people naked, of all shapes and sizes and ages and beauty levels. Tarzans and Janes are the exception, and nobody cares, all are accepted as they are. Even those in a wheelchair or missing body parts. Read Rebekah's letter again, it might inspire you. She's an autist, and yet eventually learned to accept her body. If she can do it, I'm sure you can too.
At home, my father and brothers keep poking fun at my looks. They must know it'll never upset me. It's too late for that, I like me now. :-)
When you get to fully accept who you are, what you are or look like becomes trivial.

Of course, we all tend to prefer watching alluring bodies. But if you think people "not pretty enough" should be forced by law to cover up and hide, you still have some personal work to do, progress to make.
Remember, only naturally stunning women know what a lifelong curse it can be. From their teen years, they are only seen as a pretty body, and systematically assumed to be brainless sex-obsessed bimboes. Living inflatable dolls. So those who also have any reasonable degree of intelligence feel it and suffer from it. Society denies women the right to be beautiful and be anything else at the same time. I know, it's a form of exclusion many would envy, but think about it. Me, I'm quite glad I'm only "a bit above average" good-looking, and not anything resembling a hunk. [Although women tell me I'm too modest.] I don't envy massively popular bodily aesthetics. I'm hugely fortunate that I am free to be MYSELF.

Incidentally, I've been neighbors for 25 years with the parents of a nice young girl which I only knew as being more than averagely bright. Guess what happened to her last year? She was elected Miss Lebanon 2006. Really!
Gee, I really know lots of important people, hunh? ;-)
[But it's a small country, so it goes with the turf. Half of Lebanon knew at least one of the candidates personally.]
Her mother (a good friend of ours) and mine chatted soon after that. Gabrielle the young beauty queen was already planning her future for after the next pageant, when her year of fame would be over. And she intends to go to college, find a serious job, not one based on her good looks. Smart girl, as I said. An inside that matches the outside.
But no, I'm not dating her. Maybe I could, maybe I should... :-)

4077th said...
"Yes, they are nice measurements. That ttl girl doesn't get it?"


TTL, you're a GIRL? What a news scoop! :-D
So, this makes two clubs that Peaceful Blade/Lucid Twilight and I founded and which you've joined. We should organize you a welcome party, "sister"! Do you like monster-truck shows? ;-)
To think I never even cross-dressed in my life...
"You can be a mother, when you are a man.
Open up, you know that you can. La la la..."

Nakedness coming into fashion wouldn't be entirely a negative thing, come to think of it. Some mix-ups would be avoided. "Madness, I tell you!" -- (Phoebe) :o)

Anonymous said...

At home, my father and brothers keep poking fun at my looks. They must know it'll never upset me. It's too late for that, I like me now. :-)
When you get to fully accept who you are, what you are or look like becomes trivial.

I agree with you pascal. You're totally on cue here sir! I'm currently on a website called match.com and have had no luck yet.
Most of the women consider me very ugly and don't want to know me as a person. But that's their hangup not mine.
(Actually on my planet I'm considered handsome :) But the thing is that beauty is also in the eyes of the beholder. It goes so much deeper than the flesh pool.
Everybody tells me how gorgeous my exwife looks, yet she thought I was handsome. Hmm, go figure.
People put too much into outside appearance. What you said to Hannah made a lot of sense. I've seen Hannah's face and she's quite pretty. I mean that. Her personality is also wonderful and makes her even more attractive to me.
Hannah, you're a beautiful and lovely lady. Never forget that! Everyone is beautiful in their own words.
Pascal, again I'll say, you're on cue brother!

Anonymous said...

Everyone is beautiful in their own words.

I mean't "beautiful" in their own "way."

Anonymous said...

4077th said: "Dude, are you lost? That's not bad, it's quite nice. It's not her waist size lol."

I agree, it's nice, but it's not enough. She needs more mass on the hips. Sad but true. These are illegal proportions.

4077th said: "That ttl girl doesn't get it?"

You said "dude" above, which one is correct?

laurie said...

ha ha ha, I've really loved this thread.

I support nude culture in summer and in spring.

ttl, "dude", dude, refers to guys and girls these days, especially if you're under 20. I found myself saying it to a misbehanving kindergartner the other day, he felt honored. I said, "dude, you're gonna have to become more friendly to the girls!"

ttl, thanks for the laughs.

no panties, you funny flirty girl, is that really you, or is it Pascal's new moniker?
Come on Pascal, you ARE a girl, aren't you.

i'm smart AND I have a good figure. Go figure.

hannah, I hear you.

however, I am much more happy myself being shapely and fit, not because of guys, but because feel better feeling good. I worked hard to get this shape. Guys opinions are just buttercream on a perfect cake. lol, mmmm, okay I love butter-cream.

laurie

Anonymous said...

ttl, "dude", dude, refers to guys and girls these days.

so true laurie, so ttl you learned something new today. imagine that!

Anonymous said...

Laurie,
Although I'd love to follow suit (pun intended) on the suggestion of wearing no panties, this wasn't me.
Out of modesty, I only compliment myself in private! ;-)

I love butter-cream too. :-)~~~
(Drools)

Hannah,
I have to fully back Terry on this. You've got the only thing I find really sexy, and that's personality. I never bothered to look twice at a Pamela Anderson or an Anna Nicole Smith. So, either there are other guys like me on this planet for you to meet, or I'm good for the cuckoo-house.
And if it sounds like I'm hitting on you, well... tough luck, sis, deal with it! :-)
I've learned very long ago that a sincere compliment is always a positive thing. So start liking yourself, y'hear?
Laurie's right. Always remember this, about body shape as well as most other things : It is better to inspire envy than pity. At least, that way, YOU feel well! Oh, the nightmare of being a coke-addict anorexic depressive "perfect" fashion model!...

Anonymous said...

Laurie said: "I'm smart AND I have a good figure. Go figure."

Bust and hips exactly the same? And the proportion of waist and hips correspond to golden ratio, i.e. your waist is exactly 0.618 * hips. Yes?

Madam, you are welcome to visit EU!

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

Demanding much? :)

Hannah said...

LOL I didn't mean to go off on the same trend again. All I meant was to comment on the possible assumption that only people who "look good" are welcome to go nude and the rest are just.. whatever. :)

However, if I think about it ... should the conclusion be that it really doesn't matter? Whatever people say/think/whatever... argh, I'm going round in circles again. :)

Anonymous said...

eolake said...
Heck, how do we define culture? I guess anything that can bring people together can be regarded as "a culture".

Is clothing like space in being the "final frontier" that prevents us from being "all the way together" enough to be a culture?

I just love culture.

Anonymous said...

Hannah said...
"However, if I think about it ... should the conclusion be that it really doesn't matter?"


By Jove, Professor Higgins, I think she's finally got it!
"The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plains, la la la..."

David Gallaher said...
"I just love culture.


Me too. Me three. Me four. Especially with cinnamon syrup and vanilla cream on top.
"Culture is a dish better served cold." Or something. ;-)

Check my post on "Google Desktop for the Mac" fore more boring ideas about shyness/privacy. I believe, like several Sci-Fi authors, that at some time in the (distant?) future we'll only wear clothing for immediately practical purposes, like heavy-duty work. But this (r)evolution will have to come by itself, as the CONSEQUENCE of Mankind evolving mentally and spiritually beyond judgementalism and prudishness and neurotic inhibitions. We're not there yet...

Anonymous said...

Most people say that women in nude are not being real women, they are hideous creatures. They have no dignity thus are not ashamed of their nudity. They are characterless and are primitive. They are backward and thus uncivilised. They are even considered to be immature. To most Indians ( as I am an Indian),a saree makes a woman a woman and beauty. I don't konw about other cultures. In Islam, women are devils if they are nude. I don't about that. Nude people, especially a woman, is considered to most people as to be going under a highly mentally traumatic stage.

Anonymous said...

Could you please explain it to e Eolake? i am serious about all this.

Anonymous said...

How nice would it be if all the beautiful girls were allowed to go nude? Wow, my continuousrefreshment by just simply looking at them and I would never felt bored looking at their naked beauty thus making me happy. People especially should change their mindsets that nude women aren't just masturbating objects.Period. However, many cultures and religions tell the opposite. I just want all the beautiful women top spend all their time in nude.