Is the water-fuelled car really here? Sounds too good to be true. They say it can run on a liter of any old water for an hour at 80km/h. Either there's some big downside, or this will change the game.
Of course there are doubts already.
Bert exclaims:
You bet there's doubt! Show me pure water burning in ambient conditions, with no external energy input, and my doubts will be put to rest.
Just assume for an instant that someone has developed a bug capable of separating water into hydrogen & oxygen. Can you imagine the consequences should that bug be released in the environment? Would make the launch accident in the "Rejsen Til Saturn" trailer look like a minor glitch...
Just thank God its a hoax. Achieving their claims on our planet would be like discovering fire on a planet with an atmosphere composed of oxygen and methane.
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You bet there's doubt! Show me pure water burning in ambient conditions, with no external energy input, and my doubts will be put to rest.
Just assume for an instant that someone has developed a bug capable of separating water into hydrogen & oxygen. Can you imagine the consequences should that bug be released in the environment? Would make the launch accident in the "Rejsen Til Saturn" trailer look like a minor glitch...
Just thank God its a hoax. Achieving their claims on our planet would be like discovering fire on a planet with an atmosphere composed of oxygen and methane.
Settle down, Bert. That big vein in your forehead's really going.
Imbecile. Such hoaxes are only funny, apart from the damage they do to legitimate research.
I see Bert's point. It's like ice 9 from Vonnegut's "Cat's Cradle".
Bert, you're a fucking moron. People of your level of stupidity are usually good for a laugh, though. Keep up the public service, you poor dunce!
And look who's talking: the man behind the paper bag... must have such great achievements to hide like this!
ROTFL
Settle down, Anon. That big vein in your forehead's really going.
Well, given that this has been reproduced by so many people around the world during the last 10 years, and there are many cars in everyday use that have this installed, its pretty silly to call it a hoax.
Why not get one for yourself to see if its real or not.
I think it is pretty safe to predict that either this or compressed air is how the majority of cars will pretty soon be powered.
TTL,
Gorilla were offering a device to break water to gasses for improved burn of hydrocarbon fuels.
1) diesel burn inefficiently to drive alternator.
2) Alternator powers gorilla hydrogen generator.
3) Hydrogen oxygen mix to engine.
4) Engine burns diesel efficiently, more than recouping power to hydrogen cracker.
The other company smoke and mirrored "car run on water", implying 100% water as the fuel. If they fessed up to a plan like Gorillas I wouldn't doubt them, but genepak are doing some magic, what is it? Electrochemical, biological, photo-voltaic?
I could have a 100% geothermal car if I got a PHEV and topped off the batteries at home.
Oh, I'm perfectly calm, bert. How lame of you to reuse what I said.
By the way, everyone here has de facto anonymity anyway, but regardless I doubt that truly made you roll on the floor laughing. Imbecile is a fitting epithet for you yourself, clearly. (Much more zing than moron, idiot, cretin, etc.)
"given that this has been reproduced by so many people around the world during the last 10 years"
Have you used one, or even seen one?
Dang, why are they hiding all these wonderful inventions from me? I'm begging to be dazzled, pleeease bring one to my lab! :-))
Now, don't get me wrong: there are plenty of improvements to made to the internal combustion engine. Perhaps the Godzilla contraption even works, for all I know, but that's besides the point.
The hoaxers here claim they run on water alone, with no external energy input. It consumes water and "produces" electrons, huh? What happens to the water? If it came out the exhaust, we could recycle it and end up running indefinitely, but since we have to replenish, then that's not it.
The only other alternative (unless Lavoisier was wrong) is that the water is used in some reaction, like in the old calcium carbide lamps used by generations of miners. The thing is, in such systems, you also have to replenish the reagent, which usually is the energy supply...
The quest for perpetual motion is as old as the concept of a machine itself, and yet every scientist on earth is still waiting to see it happen.
"Engine burns diesel efficiently, more than recouping power to hydrogen cracker."
Possible, but at the expense of a significantly higher combustion temperature, which the engine is not built to handle.
If this was such a breakthrough, I wonder why engine manufacturers don't make this standard equipment? After all, they have nothing to gain in increased fuel consumption... quite the contrary.
I doubt that it would be as straight as just letting the hydrogen into the air intake. The engine would have to be re-tuned, much as when they first moved to unleaded fuels in Europe in the 80's, or when you put an LPG conversion kit in, for example, your Disco.
If there was reduced flow on the fuel then a smaller volume of fuel is burnt to yield the same number of calories. Of course the compression ratio is messed up too, and a few other things besides.
I'm sure companies like Cummings and International are looking seriously at any technology that improve efficiency as that is always the market pull. However, the added complexity of this system, and it isn't small yet, will be a deterrent.
"Oh, I'm perfectly calm"
Should make it perfectly clam, would be much better.
"How lame of you to reuse what I said."
Learned that from you. Of course, since you don't have the balls to sign your bile, would it only be with a fitting pseudonym like Vomit or something, then we can't even be sure that it was you, huh?
And no, I don't roll on the floor, I leave the actual thing to cats & dogs. I just like the metaphor, like everyone else who's ever used it. But such an abstract concept has got to be above your grasp, so I'll spell it out for you: your (mental) midget prowess are highly entertaining.
Funny how moronic buffoons like you have resucitated the function of court jester, yet without the wisdom or even the style. A sad sign of the times...
Have you used one, or even seen one?
I don't think there are any HHO cars in this country.
Here's another clip to watch.
I told you why I don't bother to sign "my bile" as you put it. You might to review some of your past comments on this blog, which are full of bile. You're a very unhappy, unpleasant person. I was just having fun with you, and it was nice of you to play ball. People like you are so predictable! Anyway I won't bother checking back to see your latest "witticism" because unlike you I have better things to do. Good luck with everything. You'll need it.
Good riddance.
As for the free rides, I've just spent an interesting moment watching all kinds of videos demonstrating many ways of generating free energy, or even zero-gravity. Oddly, when I try to find out more, I invariably am requested to pull out my wallet...
Aah, I see RAF is still alive, well and kicking. :-)
And ready to share his avatar: http://palcomix.com/palblog/page10.html. Thanks, RUFF, that's a cool comic.
The "tiny problem" with using water as fuel, is that there are very few substances which are ALREADY more burned than water.
Life has designed perhaps the most energy-efficient chemical reactions you could imagine in nature. The end by-products of metabolism are, essentially, CO2 and H2O. These are also, incidentally, the end by-products of gasoline combustion...
But Politics have long proven that you can propel cars, and whole countries, with hot air. The floating french paper balloon is optional.
BTW, Bert, thank you for mentioning Lavoisier. A very good and decent man (and mind). So far to my knowledge, the only thing he got wrong, was being a noble during the French Revolution. Enough of a crime to earn him a date with Miss Guillotine. :-(
He was sentenced to death, although being exclusively an apolitical scientist, with the pithy decree that "the Revolution doesn't need scientists". When you hold the power, you're always right...
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