Monday, September 24, 2007

Noise and pictures

An Article by Mike Johnston about image noise and pictures and art.

Mike has some very good points. I think the grain in his Grimmy picture is irrelevant, or may even be enhancing it, making it more "documentary" looking.

I think noise can be distracting in two of my favorite areas: nudes and landscapes. In the first one I like smooth tones, and in the latter, I want detail.

And then on the other hand, Bill Brandt made wonderful nudes and landscapes with spectacularly grainy film. See:



12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Eolake, I love the first photo. Quite erotic and visually stunning in my view. I simply enjoy that type of photography as well as the color slides of old.
I wish they'd come out with a reel of domai women nude that would slip into a viewmaster (3D) but I've never seen anything close to it :(

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

Today you can have Viewmaster disks custom-made.

http://www.image3d.com/viewmaster.php

http://www.customviewmaster.com/

If you do it, Eolake, I'd be your first customer for Domai 3-Ds.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

It could happen.

But I hesitate, because while memberships have consistently sold very well, anything physical I've tried to sell has sold consistent extremely poorly.

Anonymous said...

So the Viewmaster is still going strong? That's nice to know.

Alex said...

Confession time, I've bought Domai downloads, and considered the book, but I just shy away from subscriptions. So I guess I'm going against the norm there.

I too would like some stereoscopy of Domai caliber, but last time we discussed this we saw it would cost thousands and require a minimum order of 500 or so units.

Alex said...

Got it.

You have available for download the 3d postcards, the type with the left/right images that you put in those lorgnettes. Then you have a PDF line art for a print at home viewer. We print up the viewer on our home printers onto card, then cut, fold and voila...

Now all you need are the 3-D images.

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

Great idea, Alex. And oh so user-convenient. Not everybody has a Viewmaster.

Although I'm sure the minimum 500 units would be gone in no time. I'm sure I'd want the complete collection.

Alex said...

With print on demand publishing, you'd think they could do the set up, then a price per copy. However, how do you print on those tiny transparencies? Is it traditional film, or a good dye sublimation process? Either way, there must be a way to automate, however considering how many companies would own a "view master printer" the unit cost would be astronomical. Hmm, thinks, what if every drugstore had a viewmaster printer and you could get a $20 beamsplitter which, with screw mount adjuster, would fit on your digicam? I've only seen them for SLRs, but I've put everyone of my SLR filters on my digicam.

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

Have you checked the links in my first comment, Alex?
I'm sure the fares are quite reasonable. I mean, COME ON, guys, we're talking 3-D Domai beauties here, not some Muhammad cartoon!

Please, Santa? Pretty please with a ribbon and a plate of cookies?
I'll throw in a glass of low-fat milk. :-)))
(Does the eyelashes trick, works every time.)

Alex said...

Pascal, I just checked the price on the Fisher Price site you referenced. 100*1.50 for the disks, then the 200 for the short run. Then 1,000 for camera rental. 125 for putting in envelopes.

1,575 just for the 3-d disks. THEN you have to add the source material, the photoshoot, photographers time, model etc.

I have no idea how many people would buy these things. Of course the $1000 for the camera rental (was that all deposit, or just part of it) vanishes with larger volume sale.

Hmm, it's beginning to look like if 1000 units could be sold, then they could be sold cheap enough, that it would be worth while.

Maybe we ought to talk to our wizend leader, and get his opinion. I personally am not going to spend $1000 on 7 3-d pictures. I might stomach $10 for 21, that is three disks, and about twice the price of a set of reels from Toys R Us.

Maybe I ought to pull $1,000 dollars from my savings acocunt and become an executive producer of this enterprise.

Anonymous said...

Wow, what wonderful photographs. Truly, of high quality. However, I am expecting for a photgraph or two with a beautiful girl posed in her full-frontal nudity which could more interesting. How, skinny-dipping? That would surely, be breathtaking with a beautiful woman. Althought the photgraphs weren't that bad enough, you could do it better. Now, Eolake, please don't get angry about it.

I can't even imagine these photographes to be pornographic.When one of myfriend spread out about her discovery from my USB drive full of tasteful nude women's collections. They all called it to be 'pornographic.' I felt so awkward when they called it like that. I wonder on what are Malaysians and the rest who find the 'tasteful nude photos' to be 'pornographic.'

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