[This is another Research Note. This is not really the forum for them, but I post them here for the record.]
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I had a realization in my bed (again... I seem to use my bed time more for cogitating than sleeping) which felt profound.
I realized a couple of years ago that the basic nature of Evil is Nothing. Nothing pressing on Something. The goal and results of Evil is Destruction, resulting in Nothing. And evil folks have "nothing" souls.
Then I considered the whole history of time to be a method to go from Nothing to Something. Or to God, if you will.
And "evil" was created purposefully as a Projection of the Nothing, so that people would See it and realize something was wrong, to coax them into action.
This worked great. We're seeing the near-end of it now, with the final step being realizing that Evil is an illusion. This is rapidly approaching the mainstream.
My realization is that the step after that is realizing that Nothing itself is also an illusion!
It does not exist. "Nothing" does not exist, never has, and can't exist.
If Source is an eternal and infinite Something, then "separation" from it could only be accomplished by being "nothing". Which was the original Erroneous Thought that we are attempting to correct.
The reason it is and has been so much work is of course that Nothing can't think! So from the viewpoint of the illusory "nothing" (us), the journey has been long and excruciating.
Ah, well. Better than boredom. (Which, thinking about it, would be the feeling of Nothing intruding on Something.) And of course in the viewpoint of the infinite Something, which is the only real thing, it barely existed at all.
17 comments:
Awesome post.
A little astrological *aside* -- Pisceans often go to bed the earliest, and stay in bed the latest, because they don't want to *miss anything* -- So much of their wisdom and insight comes from dreams, friends in high places, other dimensions, and supersensory worlds, etc. Gemini, on the other hand, goes to bed the latest, and gets up the earliest -- for the same reason. They don't want to *miss anything*. They're up til all hours researching the net or gabbing on the phone, finding out the latest on everything under the sun. This scenario fits my own house to a tee.
Just one comment on your post. Source is equally - eternally and infinitely "No Thing" as it is "Something." The Unmanifest, the Manifest, and the eternally manifesting are one, in other words, something Christians call "the Trinity." Threefold divine being in One. We know that "Something" and "Nothing" are ultimately concepts, ideas, made-up pictures of reality, illusions, mindstuff, in which case, maybe everything IS nothing after all :)
Everything ideal, that is. "Of ideas." What then is *real*?
I expect all this talk about Nothing to generate much ado.
I'd never wonder. If Emma Thompson turns up, I won't complain.
The concept known as 'evil' is entirely a subjective construct. A belief.
There is no universal entity that's evil, no objective quality of evilness, and no evil force. Evil is not a synonym for darkness, destruction or nothingness.
There are no inherently evil people. All humans operate based on the best choice they are capable of making in the moment. The human mind is incapable of intentionally choosing 'evil'. We all always choose that which, based on our beliefs, will result in most comfort and pleasure.
What is 'evil' then? It's an idea, a subjective construct by which we label (and explain to ourselves) certain, other peoples' choices which don't make sense to us. Those 'senseless' choices are the result of a severely limited pallette of choices which the person is able to allow for herself.
If enlightenment is a wider perspective, 'evilness' is the opposite: only being able to see very narrowly ahead.
The people we label as evil are the ones most in need of our help and love in order to open up to more choices for themselves. The mental state they are in is close to that of a suicide candidate.
We're seeing the near-end of it now, with the final step being realizing that Evil is an illusion. This is rapidly approaching the mainstream.
So if I blow your head off with a 22 gauge shotgun with my evil thoughts it's only an illusion? Uh-huh. So it's the goodness in me that will do it?
Come on Eolake that's BS and you know it.
Evil is real, denying it is ridiculous. Do you take drugs before going to bed? I mean, honestly? You have some good posts but then others are so off target I question sanity itself. Please.
something Christians call "the Trinity." Threefold divine being in One.
The term Trinity doesn't appear in the KJV but it defines God period. You should know that by the way. We are body soul and spirit.
And those thoughts about evil being an illusion are asinine.
WTF are you guys on? So Hitler wasn't evil. Bin laden either? If evil doesn't exists as a reality than why all the war, crime, murder happen? When you're confronted by a gunman attempting to rob you just remember, it's no "evil intention" it's just a man with a gun demanding your money. Don't worry if he or she shoots you because it's just an illusion, something that isn't real. The bullet can't hurt either since it's probably not real either.
The world's creatures aren't even given to reason anymore.
There are no inherently evil people.
"The Heart is DECEITFULLY wicked, who can know it?"
This INCLUDES ALL MANKIND. Deny it you may, but your folly will be judged by a Holy God one day.
Please, guys, PUT NAMES TO YOUR POSTS.
"So if I blow your head off with a 22 gauge shotgun with my evil thoughts it's only an illusion?"
Shooting with a shotgun is an action. Why would we consider an action to be an illusion?
It's the motivation for such actions that is under discussion. Associating the motivation to "evil thoughts" is a belief.
"Uh-huh. So it's the goodness in me that will do it?"
I don't believe in 'goodness' anymore than I do in 'evil'. Humans do not operate from either of those principles. We don't perform actions in order to "do good", we do them to feel good.
You pulled the trigger because you believed it was a good idea. That it would somehow be beneficial to you. That it would directly or indirectly result in your feeling better.
ttl said...
The concept known as 'evil' is entirely a subjective construct. A belief.
You're in a bubble dude and need help. Unless you're on some kind of medication, then we could overlook your strange and twisted view on the presense of evil and good.
Sorry about your current mental state.
Nature isn't inherently evil. I'm with ttl so far.
Evil/good starts to get a meaning when the collection of neurons exceeds a certain number, their elaborate wiring thus making deliberate thinking and acting possible. And suddenly, at this point, those terms are needed to describe what these collections are capable of: endless love, but also extreme cruelty.
Don't ask me why it has to be this way. Maybe it's just another evolution process.
Thomas Hines said: "You're in a bubble dude and need help."
Thanks for the attention (and for caring), but this blog is not about me. The idea is to discuss Eolake's posts.
If you disagree with the views I write above, feel free to present opposing arguments for us all to consider.
we have to learn to "nothingize" evil as a non-power, see it as without substance and meaning. If we give it power, every possible name and form of it will come b ack and overpower US. IF we are so blessed to be able to rise above the pairs of opposites in this life(and the mind that makes opposites), life becomes far less of a battlefield and more of a divine playground. This will only and forever come about by loving one another and forgiving our enemies (those we love to hate).
If we still desire intense drama, we will naturally hold on to good and evil. Me, I'm tired of suffering.
The idea is to discuss Eolake's posts.
That's we have been doing and according to Eolake we are entitled to respond to others comments as well.
What part of that don't you understand?
thomas hines said: "What part of that don't you understand?"
Disregarding your attack to my person all you said was that my views are "strange and twisted". That does not add anything to the discussion.
First of all, what's wrong with strange and twisted? Einstein's theory of relativity was certainly considered strange and twisted when he introduced it in 1905. Galileo's idea of heliocentricity was considered so strange and twisted that he was sentenced to prison. Same with many other revolutionary discoveries. Clearly strangeness and twistedness can not be used to measure the value of an idea.
Also, what are you proposing instead? Eolake descibed 'evil' thusly:
"... the basic nature of Evil is Nothing. Nothing pressing on Something. The goal and results of Evil is Destruction, resulting in Nothing. And evil folks have "nothing" souls."
I think that is nonsense, so I provided an alternative definition: Evil is a belief used to label and explain difference.
What's your definition? You did not even say whether you agree with Eolake's original idea or not. (Are you sorry for his mental state, too?)
I don't know how old you are but you need to learn to differentiate between attacking the person vs. attacking the idea. Otherwise you will make a fool out of yourself. Not just in this forum but in life in general.
Oh, how the Hollow Ones resonate and call it reasoning.
Is it better to negatively mirror somebody, or to positively reflect on them?
Remember wretched Griffin, who became the Invisible Man, realized that his unseen body was a symbol for his hollow persona, and lost his mind, becoming a gratuitous murderer. How tragic. Herbert George already explained the allegory of Evil = Nothingness long ago. Let they who have the aptitude to understand employ it.
TTL,
I don't see how an ad for rap celebrity Hominem would be derogatory against you. Wassup, homie?
:o)
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