Eolake said... "I wish I had the patience to do something like that!"
As well as TIME and TALENT! They're AMAZING! That's a GOB of work! LOVE the seashell one (and that's "only" a human drawing and carving that! Imagine what it must take to actually make the REAL thing!)! :-P
All together now: "I wish I had the patience to do something like that!"
People don't generally lack patience. Anyone who goes to a 9-to-5 job is very patient. Anyone who raises a child is extremely patient. Anyone who devotes themselves to almost any hobby is patient.
The reason people don't do crafts like this is that they are not interested in doing that. Most people are not even interested in looking at stuff like this.
I have done many projects more patience demanding than this. It's no big deal. It only looks that way because it is not something we care enough about to engage ourselves in it.
Not really. The main reason people don't do "crafts" like this is because they couldn't even if they wanted to. Talent does come into it. It is true, though, that most people lack the interest as well.
I have done many projects more patience demanding than this.
I'd like some examples. Otherwise you just come across as desperate to one up these people and downgrade their achievements.
The main reason people don't do "crafts" like this is because they couldn't even if they wanted to.
But intrest and talent are not independent attributes. We have the talent for what we truly want. And vice versa.
People mistake hard work for talent.
I'd like some examples.
Any sizable writing project – be it prose, software or music–, takes longer than a year to complete. I've been involved in several.
Perhaps my most patience demanding project was the digitizing of a font library in the 1990s. Thousands of glyphs, all hand hinted. It took years to complete. I had help, but still it's a lonely job.
Otherwise you just come across as desperate to one up these people and downgrade their achievements.
I in no way meant to downgrade the artist here. I think the works are beautiful. My reply was to Eolake's “All together now:” agitation. I am not joining that choir, and I don't think anyone else should either.
We have the talent for what we truly want. And vice versa.
People mistake hard work for talent.
Hard work is necessary to develop talent, but wanting isn't enough. You have to have the raw material. All the training and all the wanting in the world wouldn't make me capable of running like Usain Bolt, or able to write plays like Shakespeare or music like Bach.
Perhaps my most patience demanding project was the digitizing of a font library in the 1990s. Thousands of glyphs, all hand hinted. It took years to complete. I had help, but still it's a lonely job.
The difference is that's gruntwork that could have been done by anyone.
Before photography was invented books were illustrated using prints made from drawings carved on wood blocks.Search on Dalziel brothers to see some examples.
My great-great grandfather was John Sanderson Dalziel. (1839 - 1937). He lived to see photography put him out of work.He was not around for the founding of Apple Inc. A company which you may have heard about.They make the Ipad.
Eolake said...
ReplyDelete"I wish I had the patience to do something like that!"
As well as TIME and TALENT! They're AMAZING! That's a GOB of work! LOVE the seashell one (and that's "only" a human drawing and carving that! Imagine what it must take to actually make the REAL thing!)! :-P
All together now: "I wish I had the patience to do something like that!"
ReplyDeletePeople don't generally lack patience. Anyone who goes to a 9-to-5 job is very patient. Anyone who raises a child is extremely patient. Anyone who devotes themselves to almost any hobby is patient.
The reason people don't do crafts like this is that they are not interested in doing that. Most people are not even interested in looking at stuff like this.
I have done many projects more patience demanding than this. It's no big deal. It only looks that way because it is not something we care enough about to engage ourselves in it.
Good point.
ReplyDeleteGood point.
ReplyDeleteNot really. The main reason people don't do "crafts" like this is because they couldn't even if they wanted to. Talent does come into it. It is true, though, that most people lack the interest as well.
I have done many projects more patience demanding than this.
I'd like some examples. Otherwise you just come across as desperate to one up these people and downgrade their achievements.
The main reason people don't do "crafts" like this is because they couldn't even if they wanted to.
ReplyDeleteBut intrest and talent are not independent attributes. We have the talent for what we truly want. And vice versa.
People mistake hard work for talent.
I'd like some examples.
Any sizable writing project – be it prose, software or music–, takes longer than a year to complete. I've been involved in several.
Perhaps my most patience demanding project was the digitizing of a font library in the 1990s. Thousands of glyphs, all hand hinted. It took years to complete. I had help, but still it's a lonely job.
Otherwise you just come across as desperate to one up these people and downgrade their achievements.
I in no way meant to downgrade the artist here. I think the works are beautiful. My reply was to Eolake's “All together now:” agitation. I am not joining that choir, and I don't think anyone else should either.
We have the talent for what we truly want. And vice versa.
ReplyDeletePeople mistake hard work for talent.
Hard work is necessary to develop talent, but wanting isn't enough. You have to have the raw material. All the training and all the wanting in the world wouldn't make me capable of running like Usain Bolt, or able to write plays like Shakespeare or music like Bach.
Perhaps my most patience demanding project was the digitizing of a font library in the 1990s. Thousands of glyphs, all hand hinted. It took years to complete. I had help, but still it's a lonely job.
ReplyDeleteThe difference is that's gruntwork that could have been done by anyone.
Before photography was invented books were illustrated using prints made from drawings carved on wood blocks.Search on Dalziel brothers to see some examples.
ReplyDeleteVery nice.
ReplyDeleteAre you related to them?
My great-great grandfather was John Sanderson Dalziel. (1839 - 1937). He lived to see photography put him out of work.He was not around for the founding of Apple Inc. A company which you may have heard about.They make the Ipad.
ReplyDeleteAh yes, aren't they the guys who publish the Beatles' music?
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