I grew up in Denmark, which has protestant Christianity as a state religion. In the US it's a big deal to talk for or against the separation of State and Church, and I do think separation is good idea, but Denmark is an illustration that the mentality of the population is much more important than any laws you create, because Danes are very, very laid-back about religion, as they are about most things. You never find anybody in Denmark becoming violent against others because of difference of religion and such.
This laid-back-ness means that there was never any serious push by anybody for me to become a Christian or for that matter not to become one. My family wasn't. So I didn't. So I tend to regard Christmas as a new years celebration. Solstice. Or "jul" in Scandinavian. "Yule" in English. "Yule or Yule-tide is a winter festival that was initially celebrated by the historical Germanic peoples as a pagan religious festival, though it was later absorbed into, and equated with, the Christian festival of Christmas. The festival was originally celebrated from late December to early January on a date determined by the lunar Germanic calendar."
I marvel at the human capacity of mixing up traditions and using them together without any cognitive disconnect. Nobody seems to have any problem "celebrating the birth of Christ" by dressing up a fat man in a red suit and saying he arrived by flying reindeer.
But it's just silly to argue about beliefs. If somebody wants to believe we are all lice in the hair of god, I say more power to them.
Solstice is simply an obvious point to celebrate. For months, the days have been becoming shorter and shorter, and food has become more and more scarce. And now, it's turning. From now days are becoming longer, the light will return, and in a few months we can grow food again. It's a natural point to divide between years. And of course it gives us a pleasant holiday to look forward to at the darkest time of the year, when we need it the most.
I'm told that Time does not exist, and if it does, it's holographic, not linear. I would like that to become clearer to me, but at least if we see time as linear, then I say the future must be more important than the past, like the living are more important than the dead. We should put our attention where it does the most good.
I really appreciate having you all around, and I appreciate your comments of all kinds. And I wish you a lovely holiday time and a wonderful new year.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Eolake. I enjoy reading your blog and often 'borrow' something for my blog. Happy New Year and be well.
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Merry Christmas, Eolake. All the best to you and yours. :)
ReplyDeleteAlways a treat to hear from you, Eolake... happy Solstice from the Nomadness lab!
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Right you are Eolake. The demeanor of a people has more to do with their popular culture and behavioral propensities than any legislation. Time is a Klein bottle. So very hard to see it's shape when one is inside.
ReplyDelete(In 1882, Felix Klein imagined sewing two Möbius Loops together to create a single sided bottle with no boundary. Its inside is its outside. It contains itself.)
You help us all concentrate on the beauty around us and I thank you for that. Be merry, Be well and Be Amazing
- Dan Beyer Ft.Lauderdale, Florida USA
Go' jul Stob. og et rigtigt godt nytår.
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Merry Christmas to you and all the ones close to your so big heart,to all Domai's girls and lovers;I enjoyed so much "we should put our attention where it does the most good",maybe that's the Christmas' essence,to forgive and forget and keeping doing and admiring beautiful beings and things,starting each new year with a clear heart and mind. With endless admiration and sympathy,always yours Paul Alexandru Cazacliu artmanro@yahoo.com
ReplyDeleteMany thanks for your seasonal good wishes Eolake, and for sharing many things here that extend joy and an appreciation of beauty.
ReplyDeleteThe traditional aspects of this winter holiday no longer have any significant appeal to me. I do, however, enjoy some of the real spirit of love and giving that surrounds me at this time of the year, and I like the idea that a huge chunk of the global community stops its frenetic behaviour for a day or so. This is a wonderful time to focus on peace and unity because the vibration of these qualities is already augmented a little in the world.
I do recommend not seeing "time as linear" nor making the future important at all. We can only be, do and have in the present moment which, as it extends, seems to make a future, but it is really just a continuum of "now'.
All time is happening all the time within the illusion of time. However time is but a tiny glitch in eternity, which can only be comprehended in stillness as a revelation from Whole Mind. Time is the distance between thoughts. The human body brain cannot grasp our whole experience at once, and so events seem to come to us in a sequence. We measure the lapse between events by the revolution of the earth on its axis and around the sun, but this is actually just an arbitrary choice of time scale.
I recommend busting out of Time and anything else that seems to indicate that you are limited, small, helpless or ineffectual. It's the fast road home.
Enough 'deep stuff'. My kindest Christmas Greetings to you Eolake, and thank you for being a part of my dream. May the New Year bring you much happiness; and it will for I have chosen it for you NOW. May the Cape of Good Fortune always fly about your shoulders!!
Love, Andrew
Thanks, Eo...
ReplyDeleteGlædelig Jul to you, too! :-)
Always nice to read what's *rolling around* in your mind and ponder it myself! :-)
Wait -- what was that you said? "We are all lice in the hair of god."
ReplyDeleteOh, my... well, that explains everything! It's all so clear, now!
Best wishes to you, Eolake, and to everyone here.
All the best to you and to the rest of the crowd here, may the New Year be a better one for all.
ReplyDeleteBut as much as I agree that the future is far more important than the past, let's never forget that today is the most important of all!
Hold off, Eolake. There are a couple ways in which Time has a great deal of significance, even though we are always and only in the present moment.
ReplyDeleteThe idea of the future gives us a 'place' to envision what we cannot do at the moment. Without it, we'd either go flying off in all directions or never be able to imagine our own eventuality. One as bad as the other!
But at a more concrete level, the Time framework is absolutely necessary as a containment for what we know as seasons . . . without which there would be no possibility of maturation, regeneration or the wholeness that a life can constitute. I think you'll grant that each of these concepts has a significance that should not be compromised.
These thoughts are my Christmas gift to you, along with all the blessings that you deserve.
Love...
Irv
All foregoing thoughts appreciated on a deep and resonant level; however I would add the caution that it is entirely possible (and in my view Darwinianly likely) that in-group identification, out-group suspicion, and territoriality are genetically hardwired in humans, or a large subset of them. Evidence abounds; therefore to whatever extent one is not surrounded by tolerant Danes and their ilk, a few social structures to inhibit strife are in order. Having so said, I send my fraternal greetings to you, Eolake, and to your other admirers. Foye
ReplyDeleteMerry Yule Eo and others.
ReplyDeleteThe etymology of the word, and indeed the whole celebration, is "hjul", meaning wheel. The idea is to celebrate the turning of a full round of the wheel of the year, i.e. Sun.
See the burning of the wheel (jpg image) for a symbol of this. The four spokes symbolize the two equinoxes and two solstices.
Time most certainly exists, otherwise there would be no need to name such a concept. It is an aspect of physicality. Outside physical reality all time is simultaneous.
We only have now, but the fact that stuff in the now is solid (you can't push your hand through objects) is possible because of time.
Perhaps one of these might be a *fun* pressie for anyone pondering *time*...next Christmas! ;-)
ReplyDeleteHello, Eolake, and may your Holy Days of Christmas are Peace-Full and Light-Full :) I keep "coming" to your blog each day, to read it and get inspired. Thank yoz for your work (including your Domai.com website, too). Šťastné a veselé Vianoce ;-)
ReplyDeleteSeasonal Greetings to you too Eolake, and a Happy New Year as well.
ReplyDeleteThanks, guys.
ReplyDeleteDear Treasured Friend, Eolake:
ReplyDeleteThanks for a beautiful Christmas sentiment. I must, however, respectfully challenge the following statement:
“You never find anybody in Denmark becoming violent against others because of difference of religion and such.”
Danish politicians and editors are being threatened and attacked by Muslim fanatics who want to pound their over-the-top values down our throats in much the same fashion as the USA likes to pound its concept of “democracy” down the throats of smaller, relatively defenseless, sovereign nations (which was a major motivator for me to write “ResoNation”).
Your mention of “time:”
God invented time for two primary reasons: To place an impenetrable temporal barrier between Him/It and us; and “… so that everything doesn’t happen at once!” Thus, for us to say, “the future must be more important than the past, like the living are more important than the dead. We should put our attention where it does the most good” denies the value of the adage, “Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.” Someone once said, “Experience is what you get immediately AFTER making a mistake.” Without a firm historical foundation the future cannot stand.
I will close with comments about Christmas from a Christian and a Jew. Both are found in “ResoNation:”
Some final words on religion from a Christian and a Jew:
“Meaning no disrespect to the religious convictions of others, I still can’t help wondering how we can explain away what to me is the greatest miracle of all and which is recorded in history. No one denies there was such a man, that he lived and that he was
put to death by crucifixion. Where… is the miracle I spoke of? Well consider this and let your imagination translate the story into our own time – possibly to your own hometown. A young man whose father is a carpenter grows up working in his father’s shop. One day he puts down his tools and walks out of his father’s shop. He starts preaching on street corners and in the nearby countryside, walking from place to place, preaching all the while, even though he is not an ordained minister. He never gets farther than an area perhaps 100 miles wide at the most. He does this for three years. Then he is arrested, tried and con- victed. There is no court of appeal, so he is executed at age 33 along with two common thieves. Those in charge of his execu- tion roll dice to see who gets his clothing – the only possessions he has. His family cannot afford a burial place for him so he is interred in a borrowed tomb. End of story? No, this uneducated, property-less young man who… left no written word has, for 2,000 years, had a greater effect on the world than all the rulers, kings, emperors; all the conquerors, generals and admirals; all the scholars, scientists and philosophers who have ever lived – all of them put together. How do we explain that… unless he really was what he said he was?” Ronald Reagan
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“Christmas is not my holiday. For a practicing Jew, the twenty- fifth of December is no more significant than the twenty-fifth of any other month. But I enjoy the Christmas season a great deal. I appreciate the spirit of generosity and the reflection on reli- gious themes that the holiday engenders, and I love the mood, the music, and even the decorations. Many Jews and other non- Christians may feel a bit “out of it” during the Christmas season, but I have absolutely no problem with such a feeling… Moreover, I enjoy observing Christians celebrate their Christianity. For a Jew rooted in Judaism, Christians rooted in their identity are a bless- ing, not a problem… What this Jew does dread is an America that ceases to celebrate Christmas.” Dennis Prager
"For a practicing Jew, the twenty- fifth of December is no more significant than the twenty-fifth of any other month. But I enjoy the Christmas season a great deal."
ReplyDeleteIndeed.
Either the PC "conflict" is fictional, or those who have the conflict have problems of their own.
Re Denmark, I have not heard of any actual violence. Though perhaps I should have said "Danes" rather than "in Denmark". DK is after all a very cosmopolitan country.
Thank you, Eolake, for the warm and interesting holiday blog.
ReplyDeleteI loved hearing about the Danish Christmas--did I ever mention I am Finnish? (My dad was born in Kittila.) When I was a littl girl I won a prize for a short story about the Finnish Christmas, and yet today, I can barely remember it--much less the story.
And Time? I always thought that Time and Space were a function of each other, and I have long understood that there is no time and space, for example, in mind--either "small" (as in our individual) mind or "big" (as in Universal) Mind.
Whatever--Time is certainly useful in measuring things (such as seasons, years, distances) and,yet it's nice not to be bound by it when you want to just meander within the realm of your own thoughts--with or without spaces between them).
So, dear Eolake--thank you for the warm good wishes and I return them with love you to and all who read this.
Elizabeth