tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post5728923160720488913..comments2024-03-26T19:19:35.144+00:00Comments on Eolake Stobblehouse thoughts: Sally Mann (update 3)Eolake Stobblehousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-80711708617901468052009-03-20T22:28:00.000+00:002009-03-20T22:28:00.000+00:00I got the impression that that was actually what s...I got the impression that that was actually what started the whole thing. She found a claw saved from an old pet, and she was amazed at the emotional impact that had on her, so she started exploring it.Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-45162545483288789142009-03-20T21:28:00.000+00:002009-03-20T21:28:00.000+00:00The same things need not interest everybody.Fair e...<I>The same things need not interest everybody.</I><BR/><BR/>Fair enough. I probably wouldn't even care except it seems strange to photograph the decaying remains of one of your own pets. Animals you have no emotional connection to, fine. But your own pet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-29798997860295272892009-03-20T01:18:00.000+00:002009-03-20T01:18:00.000+00:00Yes, it's the excellence of her technique in that ...Yes, it's the excellence of her technique in that book which puzzles me, because elsewhere and in documentaries, she seems so bungling and uncaring about technique. <BR/><BR/>But perhaps she is "carefully careless". I did see her applying Dodge and Burn in the darkroom, so she is clearly no dummy.Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-68330453042344159942009-03-19T21:15:00.000+00:002009-03-19T21:15:00.000+00:00You're right, the work in that book works on so ma...You're right, the work in that book works on so many levels. It's intensely personal, emotionally powerful and exquisitely well done on a technical level.<BR/><BR/>And yes great light.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-72175951873044536392009-03-19T06:12:00.000+00:002009-03-19T06:12:00.000+00:00To my mind, the most powerful of her books is Imme...To my mind, the most powerful of her books is Immediate Family. I dunno, maybe her love for her kids translated into great power in handling tones and lines. And light. Awesome light in that one.Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-54668474811866026242009-03-19T05:18:00.000+00:002009-03-19T05:18:00.000+00:00Too postcard-ish.Kidding of course, Mann is an ama...Too postcard-ish.<BR/><BR/>Kidding of course, Mann is an amazing artist, thanks so much for the link.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-73260222566024298542009-03-19T01:32:00.000+00:002009-03-19T01:32:00.000+00:00Probably you're further in your death-acceptance t...Probably you're further in your death-acceptance than most people. <BR/><BR/>I feel certain that Sally never does anything to shock. <BR/>She just does "meditations" (as she called it once) over things that interest her. <BR/>The same things need not interest everybody.Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-57571301836728987322009-03-18T23:53:00.000+00:002009-03-18T23:53:00.000+00:00Probably you're thinking about the death series, a...<I>Probably you're thinking about the death series, art photos including human corpses in various stages of decay (from an amazing research facility where they leave corpses out in the free to study them as time passes). Yes, it's a challenge, but I think art should not shy away from anything.</I><BR/><BR/>I doubt her greyhound's decaying remains were anything to do with that research facility.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to know what the point of photographing that is anyway. It's trying to be shocking for the sake of being shocking, and that never holds up very well.<BR/><BR/>Justify that as art.<BR/><BR/>Just for the record it doesn't shock me in the slightest. It doesn't repulse me. But there is no insight into anything at all to be gained there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-85303176053847443752009-03-18T19:37:00.000+00:002009-03-18T19:37:00.000+00:00(See updated post.)http://tr.im/hwvx(See updated post.)<BR/><BR/>http://tr.im/hwvxEolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-32390800704510688122009-03-18T19:00:00.000+00:002009-03-18T19:00:00.000+00:00I just finished the DVD, "What Remains: The Life a...I just finished the DVD, "What Remains: The Life and Work of Sally Mann". Wow it certainly does put her photography and life into perspective. I almost felt sad in the end though and wonder what has happened to her husband. I did enjoy it very much though.<BR/><BR/>Her camera certainly puts a new meaning on the term point-and-shoot!! More like point and wait. I found it very interesting that she's using that technology today. If I wanted to check out how it works, what terms would I do a search on? It looks like she products a negative on a piece of glass and not being a true photographer, I don't know the terms.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15307451585911959063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-45049761578577719492009-03-18T16:15:00.000+00:002009-03-18T16:15:00.000+00:00I only know of the DVD (top link). I recommend it....I only know of the DVD (top link). I recommend it.Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-88189579339739827392009-03-18T12:55:00.000+00:002009-03-18T12:55:00.000+00:00"Funny anecdote: in the newer docu, we see her pho..."Funny anecdote: in the newer docu, we see her photographing the faces of her now-grown children"<BR/><BR/>Eolake, any idea where we might see this? Is it on-line somewhere?Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15307451585911959063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-46464799635706121622009-03-17T20:04:00.000+00:002009-03-17T20:04:00.000+00:00Reading about her on Wikipedia, some of her stuff ...Reading about her on Wikipedia, some of her stuff sounds a bit grotesque.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-27984500612202592082009-03-17T15:56:00.000+00:002009-03-17T15:56:00.000+00:00I agree. This is one of the great blots on a socie...I agree. This is one of the great blots on a society which fancies itself rational.Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-31141252031073348152009-03-17T15:47:00.000+00:002009-03-17T15:47:00.000+00:00I just finished watching the video and I thank you...I just finished watching the video and I thank you for sharing this with us. It was really great.<BR/><BR/>It's really sad that in our society this is such a taboo. I mean we all have bodies no matter what age we are and I just don't understand why there should be this distinction because of age. <BR/><BR/>I visited a nudist camp for about 20 years or so and have lots of pictures of my son and other children as they grew up. Today I'm almost afraid of mentioning that I own such things. Our society would most likely call these child porn and have the police come and take me away.<BR/><BR/>When will we grow up?<BR/><BR/>Thanks, again.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15307451585911959063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-73590755545137672692009-03-17T13:20:00.000+00:002009-03-17T13:20:00.000+00:00No, this video is one of the extra features on the...No, this video is one of the extra features on the DVD. The main feature is newer and bigger.Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-1654540792653563192009-03-17T12:39:00.000+00:002009-03-17T12:39:00.000+00:00Eolake, the video you pointed us to, is that the s...Eolake, the video you pointed us to, is that the same as the DVD you referenced (documentary)? I just ordered it and will cancel if it is.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully it won't take 17.5 hours to get it. Nope, it 1/2 way there already in about 2 minutes..<BR/><BR/>Hurray for FIOS.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15307451585911959063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-50526674352382671192009-03-17T11:00:00.000+00:002009-03-17T11:00:00.000+00:00Eolake said..."...230MB, 30 minutes."And...17.5 HO...Eolake said...<BR/>"...230MB, 30 minutes."<BR/><BR/>And...17.5 HOURS download time for you, Pascal! Why you could sleep a full 8-hour night; go to work for 8 hours and...hopefully...if all went well, you could view it when you got home that night, Dude! ;-)<BR/><BR/>Thanks, Eo! :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16327517.post-4280352147528512542009-03-17T04:19:00.000+00:002009-03-17T04:19:00.000+00:00The DVD includes the excellent documentary "Blood ...The DVD includes the excellent documentary "Blood Ties", about the making of Sally's book "Immediate Family", from 1993.<BR/><BR/>http://tr.im/hs37<BR/>230MB, 30 minutes.<BR/><BR/>I invite you to put it on the file sharing networks and promote it.Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.com